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Can an exception be made for the oldest cache in Ohio to be:
https://coord.info/GC2DBE (ancient lake) OR https://coord.info/GC31A (Shawnee Lookout). either one. Reason for this is as explained below. I would also like to know what the checker uses to determine oldest. Is it hidden date first, and then in the event of a tie then the oldest GC code from that date?

I think a good way to do this would be to have an exception list in the checker, and for regions in the exception list, it would allow for either of the two oldest in the region.

--- reason for the requested change ---- many people have found both assuming it to be the oldest.

Contested oldest Geocache in Ohio?
Something to consider!
The following is an explanation as to why this cache is the oldest active cache in Ohio. It is taken from the NovaNikki cache page (GC3EF) with permission from the cache owner, GizmoGuy411. My thanks to GizmoGuy411 for his research, and for allowing me to copy this information! (06/12)


When "NovaNikki" was hidden on 03/04/2001, Geocaching.com assigned it the 1007th GC Code of GC3EF. A cache called "ancient lake" currently displays that it was hidden on 01/23/2001, which would make it the oldest active geocache in Ohio. However, it was actually the 11,710th created GC Code of GC2DBE by Chuck Fackleman and Mark Robinette and later adopted by "swampy ranger". Therefore the "ancient lake" cache page was created 10,703 caches later than the "NovaNikki" cache page. Accordingly, we feel the hidden date for "ancient lake" should actually be 12/23/2001 not 01/23/2001.

Further evidence to substantiate the error is based on the fact that another cache was created immediately before it by Mark Robinette (one of the same cachers) on 12/23/2001 called, "glacial trailing" which was the 11,709th created GC Code of GC2DBD. This cache was also adopted by "swampy ranger". Since GC Codes are assigned sequentially, "ancient lake" was actually created after "glacial trailing".

Additionally, the oldest log for "ancient lake" is dated 01/06/2002.

Since both caches are dated the 23rd of the month, we surmise that this obvious date error may have simply been caused by accidentally selecting the wrong month when the page was created.

Therefore in all probability, "NovaNikki" is currently the 3rd oldest active geocache in Ohio, and the oldest in NW Ohio. If this assumption is correct, then that makes the oldest active cache in Ohio (which it currently claims to be already on its cache page), "Shawnee Lookout Cache", hidden on 02/18/2001, and assigned the 794th GC Code of GC31A. Clearly much older than "ancient lake".

Can an exception be made for the oldest cache in Ohio to be:
https://coord.info/GC2DBE (ancient lake) OR https://coord.info/GC31A (Shawnee Lookout). either one. Reason for this is as explained below. I would also like to know what the checker uses to determine oldest. Is it hidden date first, and then in the event of a tie then the oldest GC code from that date?

I think a good way to do this would be to have an exception list in the checker, and for regions in the exception list, it would allow for either of the two oldest in the region.

--- reason for the requested change ---- many people have found both assuming it to be the oldest.

Contested oldest Geocache in Ohio?
Something to consider!
The following is an explanation as to why this cache is the oldest active cache in Ohio. It is taken from the NovaNikki cache page (GC3EF) with permission from the cache owner, GizmoGuy411. My thanks to GizmoGuy411 for his research, and for allowing me to copy this information! (06/12)

When "NovaNikki" was hidden on 03/04/2001, Geocaching.com assigned it the 1007th GC Code of GC3EF. A cache called "ancient lake" currently displays that it was hidden on 01/23/2001, which would make it the oldest active geocache in Ohio. However, it was actually the 11,710th created GC Code of GC2DBE by Chuck Fackleman and Mark Robinette and later adopted by "swampy ranger". Therefore the "ancient lake" cache page was created 10,703 caches later than the "NovaNikki" cache page. Accordingly, we feel the hidden date for "ancient lake" should actually be 12/23/2001 not 01/23/2001.

Further evidence to substantiate the error is based on the fact that another cache was created immediately before it by Mark Robinette (one of the same cachers) on 12/23/2001 called, "glacial trailing" which was the 11,709th created GC Code of GC2DBD. This cache was also adopted by "swampy ranger". Since GC Codes are assigned sequentially, "ancient lake" was actually created after "glacial trailing".

Additionally, the oldest log for "ancient lake" is dated 01/06/2002.

Since both caches are dated the 23rd of the month, we surmise that this obvious date error may have simply been caused by accidentally selecting the wrong month when the page was created.

Therefore in all probability, "NovaNikki" is currently the 3rd oldest active geocache in Ohio, and the oldest in NW Ohio. If this assumption is correct, then that makes the oldest active cache in Ohio (which it currently claims to be already on its cache page), "Shawnee Lookout Cache", hidden on 02/18/2001, and assigned the 794th GC Code of GC31A. Clearly much older than "ancient lake".

Can an exception be made for the oldest cache in Ohio to be:
https://coord.info/GC2DBE (ancient lake) OR https://coord.info/GC31A (Shawnee Lookout). either one. Reason for this is as explained below. I would also like to know what the checker uses to determine oldest. Is it hidden date first, and then in the event of a tie then the oldest GC code from that date?

--- reason for the requested change ---- many people have found both assuming it to be the oldest.

Contested oldest Geocache in Ohio?
Something to consider!
The following is an explanation as to why this cache is the oldest active cache in Ohio. It is taken from the NovaNikki cache page (GC3EF) with permission from the cache owner, GizmoGuy411. My thanks to GizmoGuy411 for his research, and for allowing me to copy this information! (06/12)

When "NovaNikki" was hidden on 03/04/2001, Geocaching.com assigned it the 1007th GC Code of GC3EF. A cache called "ancient lake" currently displays that it was hidden on 01/23/2001, which would make it the oldest active geocache in Ohio. However, it was actually the 11,710th created GC Code of GC2DBE by Chuck Fackleman and Mark Robinette and later adopted by "swampy ranger". Therefore the "ancient lake" cache page was created 10,703 caches later than the "NovaNikki" cache page. Accordingly, we feel the hidden date for "ancient lake" should actually be 12/23/2001 not 01/23/2001.

Further evidence to substantiate the error is based on the fact that another cache was created immediately before it by Mark Robinette (one of the same cachers) on 12/23/2001 called, "glacial trailing" which was the 11,709th created GC Code of GC2DBD. This cache was also adopted by "swampy ranger". Since GC Codes are assigned sequentially, "ancient lake" was actually created after "glacial trailing".

Additionally, the oldest log for "ancient lake" is dated 01/06/2002.

Since both caches are dated the 23rd of the month, we surmise that this obvious date error may have simply been caused by accidentally selecting the wrong month when the page was created.

Therefore in all probability, "NovaNikki" is currently the 3rd oldest active geocache in Ohio, and the oldest in NW Ohio. If this assumption is correct, then that makes the oldest active cache in Ohio (which it currently claims to be already on its cache page), "Shawnee Lookout Cache", hidden on 02/18/2001, and assigned the 794th GC Code of GC31A. Clearly much older than "ancient lake".