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        <title>GC4Y95D - Geschichten aus dem Cacherleben (Challenge)</title>
        <description> A new cache that has appeared on the checker list - however it is obviously splitting the vote so I thought I would throw this in the mix for discussion :-

My thoughts on this one are :-
This &amp;#039;challenge&amp;#039; requires you to find 20 (or more) caches 
The cache is pre-moratorium so not bounded by the current guidelines (checker not required) 
so - it is an unknown and it has challenge in the title. It has criteria for qualification (find 20 caches) - Thus fits all that it needs to be a challenge cache.
It is possible that the requirement of creating a story with the names of the 20 caches you choose maybe is what is causing some issue. However this is just clarification as to what 20 caches you must find.
An example of similar challenges (of the earlier sort (pre-moratorium)) :- 
find 20 caches with the name of a fruit in the title 
find 20 caches with a girls name in the title 
find 20 caches with the name of an animal in the title 

All of these are based around using the cache name and were allowed - this one is no different

Thus I had no hesitation to upvote this one 

Tim - ddm</description>
        <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46152#msg-46152</link>
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            <title>Re: GC4Y95D - Geschichten aus dem Cacherleben (Challenge)</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,47221#msg-47221</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Reading the guidelines that were given to moderators and are noted in the wiki page regarding how we view the cache before voting - &quot;<i>Note that your vote shall not be based on today&#039;s Challenge guidelines but rather on the fact that the Geocache requires you to do something before/when logging it. You shall not take into consideration if it&#039;s a good challenge or not, neither if you like it as a challenge&quot;</i><br />
So saying something like &quot;<i>I don&#039;t like what is required of the finder.</i>&quot; &quot;<i>I don&#039;t think the criteria is really a challenge</i>&quot; (or similar) which is a personal view and this is not how we should be voting <br />
As I have said before - we must view these in black and white - Here the challenge is to find 20 caches - it is then embellished with &#039;use those 20 caches to make a story with the titles of those caches&#039;. It might be considered that the latter part is an ALR - but that doesnt take away the simple facts - this is a called a challenge and you have to find caches to qualify.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Deepdiggingmole</dc:creator>
            <category>Challenge checker exceptions</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46176#msg-46176</guid>
            <title>Re: GC4Y95D - Geschichten aus dem Cacherleben (Challenge)</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46176#msg-46176</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I upvoted this without a second thought. But then again I have upvoted the &quot;bonus challenge caches&quot; (i.e. &quot;log a challenge cache with each weekday-name in the title&quot; or whatever the one discussed here in the forums was) that many have downvoted too, because with a black and white viewpoint they are clearly challenges and so is this one, even if most of the challenge probably is in &quot;writing the story&quot; and not &quot;finding the caches&quot; in this case. Feels like a classic &quot;bookkeeping exercise marked as a challenge&quot; to me. :) <br />
<br />
I&#039;m basically second guessing my downvote on that &quot;your top x favorites&quot; every time I look at the exceptions list, lol. But I still feel that I don&#039;t <b>have to</b> complete the challenge to log it. If I have only logged 10 caches, are they really my &quot;top ten favorite caches&quot; or are they just &quot;ten random caches&quot;? Too philosophical maybe? :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pleu</dc:creator>
            <category>Challenge checker exceptions</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2020 13:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46155#msg-46155</guid>
            <title>Re: GC4Y95D - Geschichten aus dem Cacherleben (Challenge)</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46155#msg-46155</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Yes, but bonus caches (called challenges) on series are also not seen as challenges and down voted<br />
<br />
For me this is the same]]></description>
            <dc:creator>vogelbird</dc:creator>
            <category>Challenge checker exceptions</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46154#msg-46154</guid>
            <title>Re: GC4Y95D - Geschichten aus dem Cacherleben (Challenge)</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46154#msg-46154</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I can see that this would be the reason for downvotes - but as has been said before we should be looking at these things in black and white - this challenge is all around the names of the challenges (like the others) <br />
The fact that there is criteria as required for challenge caches - in this case find 20 caches - should be all that we look at.<br />
IMHO]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Deepdiggingmole</dc:creator>
            <category>Challenge checker exceptions</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46153#msg-46153</guid>
            <title>Re: GC4Y95D - Geschichten aus dem Cacherleben (Challenge)</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46153#msg-46153</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ For me your examples are not similar because these are clear criteria<br />
You must <b>find caches with</b> names etc<br />
<br />
GC4Y95D is missing this criteria<br />
Here you <b>can use any title</b> as long as there is a story<br />
<br />
I down voted because I find this too far fetched to call it a challenge. <br />
For me it is embroidery on a piece of fabric]]></description>
            <dc:creator>vogelbird</dc:creator>
            <category>Challenge checker exceptions</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46152#msg-46152</guid>
            <title>GC4Y95D - Geschichten aus dem Cacherleben (Challenge)</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?12,46152,46152#msg-46152</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ A new cache that has appeared on the checker list - however it is obviously splitting the vote so I thought I would throw this in the mix for discussion :-<br />
<br />
My thoughts on this one are :-<br />
This &#039;challenge&#039; requires you to find 20 (or more) caches <br />
The cache is pre-moratorium so not bounded by the current guidelines (checker not required) <br />
so - it is an unknown and it has challenge in the title. It has criteria for qualification (find 20 caches) - Thus fits all that it needs to be a challenge cache.<br />
It is possible that the requirement of creating a story with the names of the 20 caches you choose maybe is what is causing some issue. However this is just clarification as to what 20 caches you must find.<br />
An example of similar challenges (of the earlier sort (pre-moratorium)) :- <br />
find 20 caches with the name of a fruit in the title <br />
find 20 caches with a girls name in the title <br />
find 20 caches with the name of an animal in the title <br />
<br />
All of these are based around using the cache name and were allowed - this one is no different<br />
<br />
Thus I had no hesitation to upvote this one <br />
<br />
Tim - ddm]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Deepdiggingmole</dc:creator>
            <category>Challenge checker exceptions</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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