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        <title>Technical support for event start/end times</title>
        <description> This is this far undocumented, but there has just been added technical support in challenge checkers to retrieve information of which time events start and ends.

The event start/end times can be retrieved by adding either event_start_end as a field to GetFinds(). Or event_start and/or event_end. The data will then be returned in the fields event_start_date, event_start_time, event_end_date, event_end_time.

That events have a timestamp in HQ&amp;#039;s database is &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; (several years old now) so it doesn&amp;#039;t exist for all events. Events which doesn&amp;#039;t have this will get the value false in the LUA sandbox.

Most important - Project-GC needs to refresh information about ~500,000 events to retrieve this data. It&amp;#039;s in progress. I am expecting it to be finished in 24-48 hours from now. Before that there should be no attempt to actually publish a challenge checker with this information.

Also, we do not know if this data will be accepted to use for challenges.</description>
        <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91024#msg-91024</link>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91152#msg-91152</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91152#msg-91152</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;m not surprised HQ has rejected it. I&#039;ve had 5 or 6 appeals about challenges, and never has HQ allowed them, even though none of them actually violate any guideline. They said for this one &quot;because it&#039;s not searchable on geocaching.com&quot;... which is what I expected, but as I said above, isn&#039;t actually a guideline (and also BS, because you can just search for Megas, which would qualify by definition). <br />
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I know they have an internal forum where they&#039;ve made all these decisions, because I&#039;ve had it referenced to me several times, but no matter who/how many times I ask, they just tell me that it would be too complicated to release into the public <br />
 (because people on here *always* thoroughly read the guidelines before requesting a checker! :)) Anyhow, it&#039;s pretty unfortunate, because it would really help us out not creating challenge checkers that they&#039;ve pre-decided aren&#039;t allowed.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bmuzzin</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91151#msg-91151</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91151#msg-91151</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I am not surprised that reviewers rejected it. Or, they should at least ask HQ. But I am actually surprised that HQ rejected it. I&#039;m my opinion it&#039;s within Guidelines. But I guess they didn&#039;t like the concept then, or are afraid of where it will head.<br />
<br />
A lot of time wasted then. :(]]></description>
            <dc:creator>magma1447</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91150#msg-91150</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91150#msg-91150</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Just to update - yes, my challenge was rejected by my reviewer, and also GC HQ appeals.  Strike one for creativity.<br />
<br />
But, due to the massive inconsistency in reviewers, others might be luckier. As I said, mine are keen on &quot;the rules&quot; (even &quot;the hidden rules&quot;), and so I didn&#039;t expect much. I also suspect they&#039;re reading these forums and saw me coming from a mile away... so maybe I need to be more stealthy :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bmuzzin</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91089#msg-91089</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91089#msg-91089</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I dunno... Maybe you want to make sure you&#039;ll have hours to hang with your people. It really wouldn&#039;t be hard to add a better search... they celebrated adding attribute search after like 15 years (but not NEGATIVE attributes, because that&#039;s too hard). I don&#039;t know JavaScript, but it can&#039;t be that hard.... I wish they would hire me... I&#039;d fix it all.<br />
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I submitted my challenge... I await the inevitable rejection.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bmuzzin</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 02:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91083#msg-91083</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91083#msg-91083</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ On the other hand, when would you actually search for _event times_ as a normal geocacher? For challenges, sure. But for &quot;just geocaching&quot; it doesn&#039;t seem likely.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pleu</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91072#msg-91072</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91072#msg-91072</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ And they never seem to take this as a sign that their search function sucks... <br />
<br />
I&#039;ve been cited the &quot;not searchable&quot; guideline before, but actually reading the guideline,<br />
<br />
&quot;must come from information broadly available on Geocaching.com such as on the statistics page, cache placement dates, types, attributes, souvenirs, etc.&quot; and<br />
&quot;must be verifiable through information on Geocaching.com. &quot;<br />
<br />
Which doesn&#039;t actually say anything about searching, just verifying. So, I&#039;m not sure if they changed the language or not, because I swear it mentioned searching before.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bmuzzin</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91058#msg-91058</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91058#msg-91058</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ All events should be refreshed now. It went faster than I hoped for.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>magma1447</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2024 06:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91050#msg-91050</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91050#msg-91050</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I asked Geocaching HQ about using event times for challenges and they responded that it&#039;s not permitted as a challenge criteria as it&#039;s not searchable on Geocaching.com.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pleu</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 21:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91045#msg-91045</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91045#msg-91045</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ There are ~120,000 (25%) events left to refresh the data for. Since the newest ones have been refreshed first I would assume that the date you have found is the break point for when this feature was added by HQ, and that there won&#039;t be any new ones found.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>magma1447</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91044#msg-91044</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91044#msg-91044</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Seems to work reasonably well... it appears that events back to 2019 have these values, although I&#039;m not sure if more will populate as the process is ongoing. This is probably the first one I&#039;ll try to test the water with my reviewers (who are PICKY). Attend 20 events (any type) that are at least 2 hours long:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://project-gc.com/Challenges//91152"  rel="nofollow">https://project-gc.com/Challenges//91152</a><br />
<br />
... now I need to go out into the real world and actually hide something! :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bmuzzin</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91034#msg-91034</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91034#msg-91034</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ If you do, and remember, please post the outcome. I have a personal interest as well.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>magma1447</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91033#msg-91033</guid>
            <title>Re: Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91033#msg-91033</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ We&#039;ve had plenty of requests for checkers that use the event time, but didn&#039;t have a way to get the data, other than parsing the description (as more recent events have a standardized way to display the date). So, we&#039;ll probably be finding out soon enough whether this is acceptable... I might make one myself to try it out. Thanks!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bmuzzin</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 12:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91024#msg-91024</guid>
            <title>Technical support for event start/end times</title>
            <link>https://project-gc.com/forum/read?6,91024,91024#msg-91024</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ This is this far undocumented, but there has just been added technical support in challenge checkers to retrieve information of which <b>time</b> events start and ends.<br />
<br />
The event start/end times can be retrieved by adding either <b>event_start_end</b> as a field to GetFinds(). Or <b>event_start</b> and/or <b>event_end</b>. The data will then be returned in the fields <b>event_start_date</b>, <b>event_start_time</b>, <b>event_end_date</b>, <b>event_end_time</b>.<br />
<br />
That events have a timestamp in HQ&#039;s database is &quot;new&quot; (several years old now) so it doesn&#039;t exist for all events. Events which doesn&#039;t have this will get the value <b>false</b> in the LUA sandbox.<br />
<br />
<b>Most important</b> - Project-GC needs to refresh information about ~500,000 events to retrieve this data. It&#039;s in progress. I am expecting it to be finished in 24-48 hours from now. Before that there should be no attempt to actually publish a challenge checker with this information.<br />
<br />
Also, we do not know if this data will be accepted to use for challenges.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>magma1447</dc:creator>
            <category>Checker news</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 09:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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