This cache appeared on the challenge exception list - probably because it doesn't have the attribute
I know the CO so messaged him about this and his reply was -
this is not a challenge cache
He put
It is, in fact not a challenge cache. Challenge caches must have a
specific challenge which must conform to certain rules that were in place
at the time - not the same strict criteria in place today, but still rules
applied by the reviewer.
So what it really is is a "bluff" puzzle cache where the final coordinates
are actually the same as published. Choosing and completing a challenge is
optional and non-enforcable.
There is a sentence saying this within the description - though I have said to him it is easily overlooked and to many this will be seen as a challenge cache.
**Update** upon further discussion the CO has said
"In its current form, cachers treat it as a challenge and that's cool. I guess I'd expect they'd want it to be counted in their stats as a challenge.
However - Officially it's not a challenge cache in Groundspeak's eyes, because the challenge is variable and up to the individual, and also it is not enforceable, The reviewer would not allow it as a challenge at the time of publication and yes the requirement could have been seen to be an ALR - however it was published and has remained ever since. How it is voted on within the exception list will be down to the folk at PGC"
So although this isn't a challenge cache in the COs eyes - the moderators will have to make their own mind up as to whether this is a challenge cache or not.
Noting - there isn't a specific challenge set as criteria for this cache and there is NO requirement to actually set a challenge - finding and signing is all that is required.
For those that do set their own challenge, it can range from 'find a cache' to 'find a cache every day for the next 5 years'
The CO has no issue with whether this ends being voted up or down
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2025 11:15PM by Deepdiggingmole.
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