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Re: help and advice please

[Cancelled] help and advice please
December 24, 2019 05:59PM
checker for this cache - GC8GGQ2

https://project-gc.com/Challenges/GC8GGQ2/46930

Find 5 Year 2000 placed caches from any months

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please could I have some advice on my issue please

my cache has been rejected again, for the reason below
I don't not see how this is related to the Jasmer

Temporarily Disable Listing
24.12.2019
I am afraid that your cache is not going to be published - I will not publish any version of a JAsmer Challenge for 2000.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2019 06:00PM by CHEZRASCALS. (view changes)
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 11:26AM
I wiil start with some current date figures

There are 112 caches, placed in 2000, which are still actieve
Of these 112 caches 6 are placed in Europe
GC40 in Belgium and visited by 327 cachers from the UK
GC6A in Denmark and visited by 152 cachers from the UK
GC72 in Finland and visited by 25 cachers from the UK
GC43 in Ireland and visited by 673 cachers from the UK
GC4D in Sweden and visited by 125 cachers from the UK
GCF0 in Scotland and visited by 289 cachers from the UK

In the regio North West England there are 11 cachers who qualify for the challenge (Not counting yourself)
Pieman, Delta68, CHEZRASCALS, sillyb, Skippy and Pingu, DARK KAT, Kelsborrow Wayfinders, Pinga_and_Roo, Team Tazmina, Sir PhilPamAndRob, conkersausage, Quirky Diva

For the whole of the UK 134 cachers are qualifying at the moment

The above numbers are based on the "live" caches at the momemt

Please write appeals at HQ https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=request with the above details because based on the above figures I see no reason the withhold publication

I would advise you not to name it a jasmer challenge because you are just asking for 5 caches published in the year 2000
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 12:37PM
Thanks very much
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 12:40PM
Please report back to us when you have an answer from the appeal team
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 01:02PM
There is no mention on the cache page about Jasmer
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 07:49PM
due to the holidays I expect it to be a few days

thanks again for all your help
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 12:43PM
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I would advise you not to name it a jasmer challenge because you are just asking for 5 caches published in the year 2000

I disagree since they've added this rule recently:

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Not acceptable: Restricting finds to caches published prior to a particular date. (added Nov 2019)

but at the same time added

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Acceptable: Jasmer challenges and variations. (added Nov 2019)

So calling it a Jasmer variation may help getting this challenge published.
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 12:53PM
I disagree
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Restricting finds to caches published prior to a particular date. (added Nov 2019)
This rule is added to avoid that a challenge starts on a certain date and earlier finds do not count

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Jasmer challenges and variations. (added Nov 2019)
A jasmer challenge is finding one cache each month which is not this challenge
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 08:03PM
here is the copy of the text on the page

Geocache Description:


The Y2K' Hidden Months Challenge.

Geocaching started in May 2000 and across the world there are over 110 caches still in existence that were hidden in the early days


FIND 5 2000 placed caches from any months and from any country.


Year 2000 placed - May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec


You can sign the log and write note until you have qualified, then submit a found log.

Any found log the does not get a green tick from the checker will be deleted.


You must sign the log to claim a find - no pen/photo only will be deleted


Here is the link to the checker to make sure you can log it as found -

https://project-gc.com/Challenges/GC8GGQ2/46930

i qualify -
GC12
GC43
GC40
GC17
GC4D
GC72
GC6A
GC79
GC92
GCA5
GCF0
Re: help and advice please
December 25, 2019 08:56PM
This is important for the appeal team

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In the regio North West England there are 11 cachers who qualify for the challenge (Not counting yourself)
Pieman, Delta68, CHEZRASCALS, sillyb, Skippy and Pingu, DARK KAT, Kelsborrow Wayfinders, Pinga_and_Roo, Team Tazmina, Sir PhilPamAndRob, conkersausage, Quirky Diva

For the whole of the UK 134 cachers are qualifying at the moment


The team is basing there decision on how many cachers have fulfilled the challenge in the local area
Usually 10 in the local area and 50 in a country as absolute minimum.

The above figures are not readily available for the team
Re: help and advice please
December 30, 2019 09:23PM
Thank you for using the geocaching appeals process for your cache "Y2K' Hidden Months Challenge" ( [GC8GGQ2](https://coord.info/GC8GGQ2) ).

The appeals team has viewed your listing and the correspondence between you and the reviewer. We agree with your reviewer's assessment of this geocache listing and the advice given.

Your challenge targets placement months, commonly referred to as the Jasmer squares. Your local review team has decided a while back that they will not publish any additional Jasmer challenges or adaptations of it. While this may be different to other regions you have traveled, we ask that you accept this regional limitation.

Thus, your cache cannot be published as-is. We recommend that you follow the guidance of your reviewer and/or refer to the [Geocache hiding guidelines](https://www.geocaching.com/play/guidelines) and make the necessary changes to bring this listing to a publishable state.

We will inform your local reviewer of the outcome of this appeal.

Regards,



Geocaching HQ Admin
Re: help and advice please
December 30, 2019 10:50PM
Thank You for your answer and we will keep this in mind for the UK
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