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[Resolved] GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points

[Resolved] GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 21, 2019 12:36PM
Hi,

I need a checker as follows:
minimum found favorites: 100.000 (as shown in the ProfileStats under the box "Caches with most favorite points")
minimum total finds: 1.000
average favorites/find: 100 (as shown in the ProfileStats under the box "Caches with most favorite points" in brackets).

Edit: Adventure Lab caches shall not count.

Thanks in advance.
Heiko



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2019 12:56PM by HWHA. (view changes)
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 21, 2019 12:55PM
average favorites/find: 100 is ratio caches which is not allowed under rule 12 of the guidelines

Please read https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=127&pgid=206#percentageOfCaches

Not acceptable
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Finding all or any percentage of the caches, or of a cache type, rating, or other allowable value within a specified area; e.g. 80% of EarthCaches in France is not publishable.

What is allowed is finding 1000 caches with a minimum favorite points total of 100.000
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 21, 2019 01:05PM
vogelbird Wrote:
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> average favorites/find: 100 is ratio caches which
> is not allowed under rule 12 of the guidelines
>
> Please read
> https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=127&pgid=206#percentageOfCaches
>
> Not
> acceptable
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Finding all or any
> percentage of the caches, or of a cache type,
> rating, or other allowable value within a
> specified area; e.g. 80% of EarthCaches in France
> is not publishable.

>
>
>
> What is allowed is finding 1000 caches with a
> minimum favorite points total of 100.000

I don't think, that this is not acceptable according to rule 12. No percentage of caches or of a cachetype in a specified area is needed. One just hast to find an undefined number of high-favourited caches, but not a percentage of the total number.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 21, 2019 01:20PM
Before we are we going to make a script change to introduce this average I like you to contact your reviewer to see if he would publish such a challenge
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 21, 2019 01:29PM
You also have to consider rule 14

You punish cachers who are looking for all caches in stead of just caches with a high score
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 09:34AM
I have a reaction from reviewers and a lackey
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Please, avoid phrasing about averages in the challenge cache conditions, it is always a red flag, raising concerns about negativity in the criteria (rule 14).
Your challenge may be publishable if criteria would be presented this way: "Find total 100,000+ favorite points by your top 1,000 finds."
Please, understand that publishing reviewer needs to review complete listing to take the decision.
Challenge cache subjectivity will be reviewed as well (link). No guarantees.

Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 10:10AM
Thanks for your support. I'm waiting for reaction of my reviewer.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 10:24AM
Checker will look like this
[HWHA](https://www.geocaching.com/profile/?u=HWHA) has used [Project-GC](https://project-gc.com/Challenges//xxxxxx"Project-GC Challenge Checker") to see if they qualified for this challenge and they did.

A total of 276291 favorite points found using 1000 geocaches.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 10:32AM
Could you please provide a link to this checker, so I can check how difficult it will be to fulfil it?
Thanks.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 10:35AM
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 10:52AM
Seems to be too easy.
Could you please change number of caches (Y) to 100 instead of 1000?
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 10:57AM
Changed to 100 caches
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
November 22, 2019 11:24AM
Not really satisfying at all...
Let's see what my reviewer says. I will contact you again then.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
December 12, 2019 01:36PM
After talking to my reviewer and thinking about it a little bit more, I have a solution now:

Please change Checker as follows:

Challenge is fulfilled if following criteria is reached:
1) Find a total of minimum 250,000 favorite points.
2) Find at least 50 caches with minimum 1,000 favorite points each
3) Find at least 150 caches with minimum 500 favorite points each
4) Find at least 500 caches with minimum 100 favorite points each.

Caches with more than 1,000 fp's also count for the criteria 3) and 4) of course.

Thanks a lot.
Heiko
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
December 12, 2019 02:23PM
Here is the link to the checker https://project-gc.com/Challenges/GC8G8CG/47269

Please test and reply
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
February 27, 2020 09:24AM
Hi,

I will use this checker: https://project-gc.com/Challenges/GC8G8CG/47269
Is it possible to additionally display the overall number of finds? Just for informational purposes?

Maybe like that:
[HWHA](https://www.geocaching.com/profile/?u=HWHA) hat [Project-GC](https://project-gc.com/Challenges/GC8G8CG/47269 "Project-GC Challenge Checker") verwendet, um zu prüfen, ob er/sie diese Challenge erfüllt und er/sie hat es geschafft.

"1. Find a total of minimum 250,000 favorite points." Qualifying 302041 / 250000, PASSED
"2. Find at least 50 caches with minimum 1000 favorite points each." Qualifying 50 / 50, PASSED
"3. Find at least 150 caches with minimum 500 favorite points each." Qualifying 153 / 150, PASSED
"4. Find at least 500 caches with minimum 100 favorite points each." Qualifying 560 / 500, PASSED
All tests, Qualifying 4 / 4, PASSED
Total number of finds: 2653

Thank you.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
February 27, 2020 10:06AM
Added the extra parameter of "Total number of finds (excl. Lab.caches)" minimum quantity 500 caches

@Pattux can you remove the other checker
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
February 27, 2020 10:13AM
Perfect. Thanks very much.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
December 12, 2019 07:54PM
Perfect. Thank you very much.
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
January 03, 2020 08:46AM
Hallo again,

I have another question. Would the following criteria be okay?

Find a certain number (maybe 250?) of caches with minimum 50% favorites an a minimum of 50 favorites absolute.

Thanks for your support.
Heiko
Re: GC8G8CG Pleasure Cacher Challenge - Average Favorite Points
January 03, 2020 11:51AM
Maybe there is a language problem here, I will ask PattuX, who's native language is German, to answer this request in German
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