Die gleichen Bilder in Caches geloggt

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Hallo Project Geocaching Team, mir ist aufgefallen das manche Cacher das gleiche Foto in ihren Loggs hoch laden( Blume, Baum, oder Wiese) und werden noch belohnt mit Badges Diomand.
Ist in Zukunft für solche gleiche Bilder ein Filter zur bewertung der Badges geplant?
Seit gegrüßt aus Belgien

Sorry Google translator

Hello! Project Geocaching Team, I have noticed that some cacher the same photo in its loggs upload (Flower, Tree, or meadow) and be rewarded with badges Diomand.
If in the future for those same images, a filter designed to review the badges?
Since greeted from Belgium

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That would be possible but would require but is is meningsfull and worth the effort?

It is quite trivial to upload a different meaningless images instead. Just set the camera to burst mode and take multiple images of the same motive. They will be different for an simple image comparison. for mor complex comparisons they will be the same but it is easy to take "unique" images by moving the camera. If you walk in the forest there will be no problem to take a huge amount of "unique" images

What i mean is that if you want to "cheat" and use meaningless images it is hard/impossible to stop.

I can only see to ways to stop uploading of meaningless images

One way to stop people uploading meaningless images is probably to remove the motivation to do that by removing the image badge.
Another is for groundspeek to forbid meaningless images in cache logs and for the or the CO to remove the. But I dont think they would do that when there is not a large problem and the cost to do that is high

But i am not sure the images are uploaded to create false badges.
There is no way to add an image to a log without uploading a new image. If you whant the same image on multiple logs for some reason you have to upload the image multiple times. I dont think it is unresonable to use the same image on multiple cache on for example a trail

Answer 1

I know (have heard of) people having some form of token they photograph at each spot, and often upload, as a form om proof of that they have actually been there.

This is not necessary to achieve a badge. Regardless, the rules of the badges are set by Kyle at BadgeGen.com and not us.

I am not sure what kind of solution you want. I don't know who is to say if an image is meaningful or not. The other alternative is to detect if images are pure duplicates, but I personally think it's quite a lot of hassle for a very small problem.

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I would agree to that - indeed there may be people cheating in one way or the other but one has to think about the effort to identify and possibly sort out these cheats. At some point one has to realize this is a lost battle so for me let them do what they need to do. In this case the cheat will be easily visible to the visitor when looking at all pictures uploaded.

Answer 2

Danke für die Antworten, ob es den Aufwand wert?
Man etwa wenn ein Cacher 1000 Fotos Logs denken sollte, und es ist immer das gleiche Bild.
OK! es ist nur ein Spiel.
Danke an alle,

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The effort is to write the code and test it. The all images has to be downloaded and a hash value has to be calculated. That is for identical images.
If similar images has to be detected my guess is that images has to be stored or at least a downscaled version of it
This is a log of coding and background activity. If images has to be stored it will be a "cost" for disk usage.

And then the way for a cheater is to upload 1000 different meaningless images and will still get the badge. To upload different images is not much more difficult than to upload 1000 identical. And all work will be for nothing.

To determine som type of meaningfulness that is probably what has to be done to stop image badge cheating i can see no way except to have a human in the loop. That would require a very large amount of work with with arbitrary decisions. And all that for some badge cheating