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Changed By: Svarträv
Change Date: November 24, 2023 12:23AM
Re: GCAGKCK Oldest in 15 countries
So as follows:
[s]GC8DDP3[/s] - Archived already and wasn't even an old cache, therefore removed
[s]GC793AV[/s] - [u]Final in different country than posted location[/u]. Cache archived already and wasn't even an old cache, therefore removed
[s]GC6NEAV[/s] - This cache had fake a finding date from before the Geocaching even existed. The issue had been solved at some point, therefore removed.
[s]GC69Y6N[/s] - This cache had fake a finding date from before the Geocaching even existed. The issue had been solved at some point, therefore removed.
[s]GC6M188[/s] - This cache had fake a finding date from before the Geocaching even existed. The issue had been solved at some point, therefore removed.
[s]GC4V29J[/s] - [u]The hiding date of this cache was... year 1982.[/u]. As long as it would end up messing the checker results the issue was already fixed. Therefore removed.
[s]GC2DC2[/s] - [u]The cache location was set to Monaco even though the cache itself was 2km away, in France.[/u] The issue had been that this cache was showing as the oldest one in Monaco which wasn't true. but the issue was fixed last year (22 years after publication...). Therefore removed.
To sum up - In some cases, these caches had fake hiding dates or fake locations which resulted in false checker results. In some cases caches are already archived and weren't old enough to mess up anything, in some cases, owners fixed the issues already.
Such lists are created to protect the cache finders from people intentionally messing with statistics. Sometimes problems are being solved but the lists are simply copied from old checkers and pasted to new ones without checking them each time. For example, you can see here: GC84K2E this cache location is posted as Russia even though this is a cache in Poland which doesn't require you to visit Russia at all. In this case, it's quite a new cache and therefore there is no reason to put it on such lists as it has a minimal potential to ever become the oldest cache in Russia (and is actually excluded by GC Headquarters from official statistics already).
Closing the topic - I have removed the whole list from your checker as there isn't a reason anymore for them to be there. Keep in mind though that finders of your challenge may stumble upon similar cases and if they report them to you please let us know so we can add these caches to the exclusion list. You can resubmit your cache to your reviewer now.
Original Message
Author: Svarträv
Date: November 24, 2023 12:22AM
Re: GCAGKCK Oldest in 15 countries
So as follows:
[s]GC8DDP3[/s] - Archived already and wasn't even an old cache, therefore removed
[s]GC793AV[/s] - [u]Final in different country than posted location[/u]. Cache archived already and wasn't even an old cache, therefore removed
[s]GC6NEAV[/s] - This cache had fake a finding date from before the Geocaching even existed. The issue had been solved at some point, therefore removed.
[s]GC69Y6N[/s] - This cache had fake a finding date from before the Geocaching even existed. The issue had been solved at some point, therefore removed.
[s]GC6M188[/s] - This cache had fake a finding date from before the Geocaching even existed. The issue had been solved at some point, therefore removed.
[s]GC4V29J[/s] - [u]The hiding date of this cache was... year 1982.[/u]. As long as it would end up messing the checker results the issue was already fixed. Therefore removed.
[s]GC2DC2[/s] - [u]The cache location was set to Monaco even though the cache itself was 2km away, in France.[/u] The issue had been that this cache was showing as the oldest one in Monaco which wasn't true. Therefore removed.
To sum up - In some cases, these caches had fake hiding dates or fake locations which resulted in false checker results. In some cases caches are already archived and weren't old enough to mess up anything, in some cases, owners fixed the issues already.
Such lists are created to protect the cache finders from people intentionally messing with statistics. Sometimes problems are being solved but the lists are simply copied from old checkers and pasted to new ones without checking them each time. For example, you can see here: GC84K2E this cache location is posted as Russia even though this is a cache in Poland which doesn't require you to visit Russia at all. In this case, it's quite a new cache and therefore there is no reason to put it on such lists as it has a minimal potential to ever become the oldest cache in Russia (and is actually excluded by GC Headquarters from official statistics already).
Closing the topic - I have removed the whole list from your checker as there isn't a reason anymore for them to be there. Keep in mind though that finders of your challenge may stumble upon similar cases and if they report them to you please let us know so we can add these caches to the exclusion list. You can resubmit your cache to your reviewer now.