Re: GC9PMHM Revenge Challenge

I know you have issue with any DNF Challenge. I ran this by my reviewer and he said, probably not likely that this would get a checker. What I see is a Challenge no different than one paired with a attribute, 50 special tool required, 25 abandoned structure. You see what I mean.

All you need to log this find is 150 caches you found that you previously posted a DNF. The key is previously logged DNF associated with a later find of the same cache.

We have the information, but it's not being used Challenge checker API. The challenge will never get approved by HQ because is violates 2.12.14.

Your first criteria is not finding caches which is a negative criteria

Your last sentence, "Your first criteria is not finding caches which is a negative criteria". Since when does a geocacher/person do anything in life seeking failure. This is a reward for persistence! I have no idea what 2.12.14 is but it may need a review.

I appreciate your help, time and accept the decision.

@LeapinGuy
The issue is: How does one accomplish "Finding 150 caches you previously DNFed" without first accomplishing the negative criteria of "Not finding 150 caches"? It's impossible because you need to first DNF the cache to be able to use it for qualifying and the guidelines clearly states "Criteria may not be for a negative achievement such as DNF logs.".

Also it would take about five minutes after publication before somebody just adds DNF logs dated the day before their find for enough caches to qualify.

Also it would take about five minutes after publication before somebody just adds DNF logs dated the day before their find for enough caches to qualify.

Are you talking about "The Big Lie"?

I'm not sure what you mean by "The Big Lie" but I'm saying this is a setup that is very easy to abuse and people will abuse it.

Donald Trump - Big Lie. You're not from around here. Good Bye

@LeapinGuy I don't understand what Donald Trump has to do with the issue with your challenge-idea. :)

@Pleu - Can you stay positive and stop this exchange

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Well, I'm sorry for trying to understand what OP is trying to say.

"I have no idea what 2.12.14 is but it may need a review."

Please go to the hiding guidelines 2.12
5. Standard for Criteria

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Criteria may not be for a negative achievement such as DNF logs.

14. Positive Challenge Criteria

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Challenge criteria must be positive and require that a geocaching goal be achieved.

If you like to appeal or get clarification you can use "6.15. Submit an appeal" of the hiding guidelines



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